JOURNALIST: Although you have nowadays absolutely devoted yourself to harmonious music, you show a lot of tolerance towards dissonant music, and you explain the acceptance of disharmonious music not as a musical but purely medical prob­lem.

But this raises questions concerning musical education. How do you see the roles of harmonious and disharmonious music in music education – in school, in the media, at home?

PETER HÜBNER: School is primarily a place for education, and one aspect of education is the passing on of information, a different aspect is the internalisation of knowledge, of structures and functions.

Let’s have a look at the aspect of information first. Without doubt, it is of equal interest to inform the people about aspects of harmony as well as disharmony, and to find out what harmony is, what disharmony is, what are the differences, and in what way are harmony and disharmony linked to each other.

Even if harmony is beneficial to health, and disharmony is harmful, there are good reasons to pass on information on these two aspects, on the structural conditions as well as on benefits and damage. This also applies to nicotine. Here, the interesting question is also: what is the structural effect, and in how far is it beneficial or harmful.

Whether such considerations now mean that everybody has to smoke himself, is a totally different question. Scientific ex­peri­ments are nowa­days only car­ried out with lim­ited groups whose mem­ber’s health is ex­am­ined prior to these ex­peri­ments, and then get paid to take part on a vol­un­tary basis in fa­vour of the sci­en­tific find­ings. In par­ticu­larly dan­ger­ous cases, doc­tors fall back on ani­mal ex­peri­ments.

But the only concern is always to verify the benefit or damage to the individual’s or the community’s health.

Under certain preconditions of objectivity which are determined by the scientists, the results of the examinations are accepted by those not concerned – in the case of nicotine, the non-smoker, too, will accept the results of the examinations which were achieved with the smokers during research.

In the case of nicotine, it was established that it can cause general damage to health – this applies to active and passive smoking, and especially to children and juveniles.

Smoking was in fact not prohibited on principle, but society in general is increasingly watching out that children and juveniles do not smoke, and that in public places and particularly in schools and Kindergardens people do not smoke at all or at least not a lot.

Today, the social significance of smoking is therefore no longer only a question of culture and personal taste – as in the times of Wilhelm Busch – , but on the basis of modern medical methods of examination and objective results of examinations also primarily a question of society’s medical fundamental attitude.